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Postby BrooklynBilly » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:31 am

Whooda thunk! I read where Madonna and Katy Perry were inconsolable in their grief. I would hope Mr. Trump spends his energies in getting the private sector job engine revved up. Putting a halt to new job killing taxes,regulations and employer mandates would be a good start. Sending Elizabeth Warren back to the reservation would be a good second move and denying progressives access to the levers of power will go far in returning America to a saner place.
It just seems so unbelievable, I would have bet the ranch on a Clinton victory.
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Re: President Trump

Postby Marie » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:00 am

BrooklynBilly wrote: Sending Elizabeth Warren back to the reservation . . ..

Nice little surgical shiv in the ribs, there, Billy. Women are such apt targets for you bigots; in fact you go there naturally without even thinking twice about it. But why should anyone care whose feelings get hurt, right?

Here's why: Multiply comments like that by the sum of Internet trolls and see how successful Trump is in bringing the country together. Yeah, Billy, you're going to be out here helping him a LOT!

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby BrooklynBilly » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:11 pm

The soon to be unemployed White House staff.


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Postby Marie » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:32 pm

BrooklynBilly wrote:The soon to be unemployed White House staff.


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The electors haven't voted yet.

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Safety pins: why people are wearing them after Trump's election

Postby Marie » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:39 pm

Just trying to "keep it together"? Good guess, but that's not it!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/w ... ce=twitter

Join the movement.

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Press identify a danger only when it involves THEM

Postby Marie » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:57 pm

The media blew the election. Now they’re blowing the transition to Trump.
By Brian Beutler
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11/11/2016

ON THURSDAY, President Obama welcomed Donald Trump to the White House for a formal briefing and a photo-op, during which both men managed to appear friendly and productive.

The political media has relished all of it: the pageantry, the symbolism, the implication that our system of government is sturdy enough to persevere through the ugliest election in modern history and withstand the transfer of control between two men who hate each other.

The same press corps that was preparing itself two days earlier to cover Hillary Clinton’s emails for two more years swept Trump’s penchant for sexual assault and other depredations out of memory over night.

The New York Times described their meeting as an “extraordinary show of cordiality and respect between two men who have been political enemies and are stylistic opposites -- Mr. Trump a brash real estate executive and reality television star whose campaign was defined in opposition to the sitting president, and Mr. Obama, a cool-tempered intellectual who has pressed a progressive agenda in office.”

Cable news network cameras were glued to the tarmac as Trump’s plane touched down in Washington. “I think that is fascinating, but just to underline there,” said CNN’s John King, “Donald Trump saying during these comments he has respect for the president, he will seek council from the president when he is president of the United States.”

This all sounds very soothing, and Obama in particular must feel obligated to lead the transition with grace and dignity, irrespective of the horribly racist way that Trump, a leading proponent of birtherism, has treated him for the last several years. But it is all extremely delusional -- Obama’s sanguinity, the media’s wonderment, the supposition that antipathy between the outgoing president and the incoming one as opposed to the latter’s governmental inexperience and contempt for preparation would be the reason for a rocky transition.

There may be fleeting upsides to lulling the public into a sense of calm, but at some point reality needs to break through all of the pomp.The situation that confronts us is extremely dangerous, and not just for all the civic dissension Trump has inspired or for his erratic, unpredictable nature. Apart from all the hiring Trump would have to do anyhow, his offensiveness and grotesque unfitness for office is likely to lead to an unusual number of civil-service departures. Most decent, honorable professionals are not going to want to work for the Trump administration. At a nuts and bolts level, much of the federal government is going to be run by goons or not at all. This is on top of the fact that of all the basic things the president is required to do on a day-to-day basis -- listen attentively, read closely, speak carefully -- Trump lacks the intelligence and composure to do any of them.

This would be a combustible situation contained all by itself; but added to the internal pandemonium, the Trump administration is likely to be tested, as new presidents often are, by hostile foreign actors. If and when that happens, Trump will be reliant on low-rent advisers and his own unstable temperament. This is to say nothing of his actual policymaking, which could include variants on mass expulsion, stop-and-frisk policing, and a de facto Muslim ban -- all things his feral supporters continue to demand and expect.

On Wednesday, Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan called on her own outlet and others to do better, and to stand up for their right to challenge Trump and his administration. The next day, members of the press did raise a fuss about the fact that Trump traveled to Washington for his meeting with Obama without his protective pool of reporters. But as I’ve argued in the past, the media lacks a vocabulary for guarding norms that aren’t centrally about press access and press freedom. In addition to the banal chaos that the Trump administration is likely to unleash, we’re facing a moment that threatens equal protection, due process, free expression, democracy -- not just press freedom.

It’s not a drill. The media undersold the threat to many freedoms before election night, and it would be self-dealing and a disservice if the only liberty under attack we rose to defend was one that undergirds our industry.

There’s a fine line between whipping up panic and informing the citizenry so that people can respond in orderly, considered fashion. But this is an emergency and people need to be prepared for it -- even if, in the end, the category-five hurricane is downgraded.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138680/ ... tion-trump

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby dnkoa » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:47 pm

Harry Reid is having none of this kumbaya bullshit trying to make Trump into an empty suit: http://www.reid.senate.gov/press_releases/2016-11-11-reid-statement-on-the-election-of-donald-trump#.WCabqi0rLIX

The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America.

“White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear – especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans. Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America.

“I have heard more stories in the past 48 hours of Americans living in fear of their own government and their fellow Americans than I can remember hearing in five decades in politics. Hispanic Americans who fear their families will be torn apart, African Americans being heckled on the street, Muslim Americans afraid to wear a headscarf, gay and lesbian couples having slurs hurled at them and feeling afraid to walk down the street holding hands. American children waking up in the middle of the night crying, terrified that Trump will take their parents away. Young girls unable to understand why a man who brags about sexually assaulting women has been elected president...

We as a nation must find a way to move forward without consigning those who Trump has threatened to the shadows. Their fear is entirely rational, because Donald Trump has talked openly about doing terrible things to them. Every news piece that breathlessly obsesses over inauguration preparations compounds their fear by normalizing a man who has threatened to tear families apart, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women and who has directed crowds of thousands to intimidate reporters and assault African Americans. Their fear is legitimate and we must refuse to let it fall through the cracks between the fluff pieces.

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Re: President Trump

Postby Marie » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:52 am

^ Two indispensable Reids have emerged in the Trump era -- Joy, and Harry.

I've always loved Harry Reid's pugnaciousness. He looks wimpy, but he's not.

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby BrooklynBilly » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:24 pm

dnkoa wrote:Harry Reid is having none of this kumbaya bullshit trying to make Trump into an empty suit: http://www.reid.senate.gov/press_releases/2016-11-11-reid-statement-on-the-election-of-donald-trump#.WCabqi0rLIX

The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America.

“White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear – especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans. Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America.

“I have heard more stories in the past 48 hours of Americans living in fear of their own government and their fellow Americans than I can remember hearing in five decades in politics. Hispanic Americans who fear their families will be torn apart, African Americans being heckled on the street, Muslim Americans afraid to wear a headscarf, gay and lesbian couples having slurs hurled at them and feeling afraid to walk down the street holding hands. American children waking up in the middle of the night crying, terrified that Trump will take their parents away. Young girls unable to understand why a man who brags about sexually assaulting women has been elected president...

We as a nation must find a way to move forward without consigning those who Trump has threatened to the shadows. Their fear is entirely rational, because Donald Trump has talked openly about doing terrible things to them. Every news piece that breathlessly obsesses over inauguration preparations compounds their fear by normalizing a man who has threatened to tear families apart, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women and who has directed crowds of thousands to intimidate reporters and assault African Americans. Their fear is legitimate and we must refuse to let it fall through the cracks between the fluff pieces.


Below is a letter from Friday's WSJ that may help to explain some of the exodus of working class white men from the Democratic party. These men used to be the backbone of the party and are now viewed as the enemy by many of those calling themselves Democrats..

Replace a Culture of ‘Deference’ With Respect
When the Democrats paint women, blacks, Muslims and homosexuals as victims, then a victimizer is required.
Nov. 11, 2016 5:38 p.m. ET
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Regarding Shelby Steele’s “Trump, Clinton and the Culture of Deference” (op-ed, Nov. 8): When the Democrats paint women, blacks, Muslims, homosexuals, immigrants (legal and illegal) and the transgendered as victims, then a victimizer is required. By the process of elimination, only middle-aged white males are left to fulfill the role of victimizer. By assigning this label to white men, the Democrats are engaging in the exact behavior they are rallying against—they are judging us by our looks/race/class. That is unless we publicly declare allegiance to their cause and pay deference to everyone else. We started to play along years ago—but we are exhausted as the list grows!

The problem with this is that most white males are decent people. Just like most women, blacks, Muslims, homosexuals, immigrants (legal and illegal) and transgenders—most white men work hard, respect other people, pay taxes, love their family, love their country and generally try to do the right thing. And just like most in the groups mentioned, we want to be left alone, not be unduly judged. We want to go about our lives without being assigned the burdens of past injustices.

We are tired of being burdened as the class of victimizers. White men are good, decent people in the same ratio as women, blacks, Muslims, homosexuals, immigrants (legal and illegal) and the transgendered. As a class we are innocent of this title. It should be no wonder that we speak out with a loud voice when we finally find a legitimate outlet.

Robert P. Burke

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Re: President Trump

Postby Marie » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:38 pm

BrooklynBilly wrote:
When the Democrats paint women, blacks, Muslims and homosexuals as victims, then a victimizer is required.
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White men are good, decent people in the same ratio as women, blacks, Muslims, homosexuals, immigrants (legal and illegal) and the transgendered. As a class we are innocent of this title. It should be no wonder that we speak out with a loud voice when we finally find a legitimate outlet.

Robert P. Burke
Ridgefield, Conn

Then find one, Mr. Burke.

If you speak thru Trump, you undermine your own argument. Bigly.

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby dnkoa » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:22 pm

Yeah, you guys found someone who could be endorsed by the KKK and just hired an anti-Semite. All yours Billy.

Trump is so unprepared for office it's already been reported that Obama has to spend more time teaching him the basics. He's only only going to be living two miles away from the WH since the girls are still in school. Great. Maybe he can talk some sense to him.
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Re: President Trump

Postby Marie » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:34 pm

dnkoa wrote:Trump is so unprepared for office it's already been reported that Obama has to spend more time teaching him the basics. . . .

A remedial student.

I think my fav part of Billy's post was where he tried to say "(op-ed, Nov. 8th):" -- and it came out "(op-ed, Nov. 8):"

LOL!

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby BrooklynBilly » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:06 am

dnkoa wrote:Yeah, you guys found someone who could be endorsed by the KKK and just hired an anti-Semite. All yours Billy.

Trump is so unprepared for office it's already been reported that Obama has to spend more time teaching him the basics. He's only only going to be living two miles away from the WH since the girls are still in school. Great. Maybe he can talk some sense to him.


Maybe you forget that Obam, after serving 144 days in the US Senate, found himself ready to run for president. Prior experience as a community organizer and representative in the corrupt Illinois legislature count for nothing.
BTW Trumps grandchildren are Jewish and at last count the KKK had 5000 members, 2500 of whom are FBI and ATF agents. I might also remind you that Obama was endorsed by that piece of shit Al Sharpton.
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Re: President Trump

Postby Marie » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:03 pm

BrooklynBilly wrote:Obama, after serving 144 days in the US Senate, found himself ready to run for president. Prior experience as a community organizer and representative in the . . . Illinois legislature . . .

So Obama had experience, both on the state and federal level, in how government works. Trump doesn't.

Trump hasn't even had the curiosity to study about it from books. He is starting out as a blank slate, having proudly touted his ignorance as proof that he is free of the "contamination" of government.

This is the weird needle Trump has to thread: his party hates government (even as its members brazenly collect government paychecks), unlike Democrats, who believe in the efficacy of government (which is logical, since the government in this country is made up of citizens). How can he do that and still keep his support, after having maligned the government for the past year-and-a-half?

Good luck with that one.

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You find out what someone is really like in "battle," and Olbermann is who you want to be in a foxhole with, Patrick said. "On the air, we had each others' backs," said Olbermann.
-David Goetzl: "Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick still brothers long after ESPN's 'Big Show'"; MediaPost blog, 4-6-2012


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Re: President Trump

Postby dnkoa » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:49 pm

All of which means he'll abdicate his responsibility to the other freaks he's opening the WH doors to. Like white supremacist Stephen Bannon. I notice Billy didn't even try to deny that one. Kinda hard to when Bannon's peers on the right confirm that it's true. What makes you think Trump cares about his grandchildren? He said it was ok to call his daughter a "piece of ass" :roll:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/glenn-beck-steve-bannon-is-a-terrifying-man/


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